Age Requirements

After requesting an appointment online and calling twice, I go to my first appointment with Massage Envy. Filling out the papers the last question is are you under 18? I ask about the question since I’m 17 and they said a parent needs to be with me during the clinic just because I am a minor. Obviously my parents trust me enough to get me a gift card and allow me to drive myself there after planning my own appointment. Why do I need parent? Their response was something might happen during the clinic… What is going to happen?! You are suppose to be professional, then nothing should happen and having a parent there won’t stop said accident or help. Just let me get my massage! Instead of relieving my stress, Massage Envy increased it ten fold.

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  • chfhfhfhf

    I think the laws for inappropriate touch claims made by minors or everything regards that nature are very different than regulations with adults. Put yourself in the position of massaging a not-fully-dressed twelve year old, alone, with no witnesses present and your license and therefore your career and possibly overall liberty being on the line – therefore they put the parent there witnessing session so he said she said misunderstandings dont happen. Regardless, they should have asked you over the phone beforehand. Most much youner kids dont even need massages unless theyre athletes or something like that.

  • YourName

    It’s because the form you filled out is a legal document and as a minor you can’t legally sign anything.

  • Linda Spafford

    I used to be a massage therapist for a couple of years and I have also gone to several massage therapists. There are a lot of bad people in the world and based on what I know now I would suggest that neither kids or adults go to massage therapists. It is too dangerous to let someone you don’t know touch you all over your nearly completely naked body. Different people have different motivations for becoming massage therapists and some of them really are extremely dangerous criminals, regardless of how friendly they are.

    • swgb

      People die in cars every day, should we all stop using cars?

      • Linda Spafford

        Getting a massage is a very unnecessary risk that people are free to take if they want to. For some it may seem necessary or be necessary for medical reasons. Being a massage therapist is an extremely unnecessary risk to take because even though some people may feel like they need to get a massage or may actually need massage for medical reason there are so many ways to make money in this world. One of the worst regrets of my life is becoming a massage therapist and I would never suggest massage as an occupation to anyone. A lot of bad things have happened to a lot of people that I can think of either because of being a therapist or getting a massage and they really didn’t need to get massage or be a therapist. I for one have taken a lot of unnecessary chances in life, getting and giving massage being among them. We should avoid at least some unnecessary risks in life. Everyone chooses what risks to take and not take. I used to live in Florida and loved going to Daytona Beach to swim in the middle of the night (very risky) but I think that may have actually been safer than being a massage therapist, especially in Florida. The massage therapy industry overlaps with a lot of criminal activity and people put themselves in bad situations by working as therapists. If I would have thought it through a little better I never would have been an LMT. I won’t get into all of the details here but even though obviously people aren’t going to live in a cave somewhere because life is too dangerous I hope that people who read this will just trust me and stop getting massage and tell as many people as possible to never be an LMT. It really is too dangerous. We have to get around somehow (car, bus, train, walking, bike) and all methods of transportation is dangerous but most people who get massage could get through their whole lives without one massage. The police really hate massage therapists a lot because of the fact the industry overlaps with criminal activity. I really wasn’t involved with any kind of criminal activity myself but because crime is a step-child of the massage industry I hope many people will see this and just trust me to never get a massage if they can get by without it and never be an LMT. I wouldn’t say all of this if I didn’t have a strong and valid concern, especially for minors. LMTs should be professionals and care about their clients but you never know who has gotten themselves involved with serious criminal activity and may use their client-therapist relationship to manipulate their clients somehow. I won’t go swimming on daytona beach anymore, or get or give massage. I hope no one else will either.

        • leah

          That is literally the most ignorant thing I’ve ever read in my entire life. Yes, there are therapists out there that have a criminal background and that is why Florida now requires finger printing and background checks for all LMTs. I personally am relieved that you are not a therapist anymore if you’re going to have the “people don’t really need massages” mindset. Massage therapy is a great way to relieve a lot of issues, whether it be anxiety, insomnia, sciatica, etc. For you to sit there and say that it is an unnecessary risk to get and/or give a massage is ludicrous. You clearly have NO idea what the profession is about if you’d rather have people on pain killers and dozens of other prescription medications or get surgery that might not be necessary.

          • Linda Spafford

            I can understand why you don’t agree with me. I used to have a very different view of the massage therapy industry or I would have never bothered to go to massage school. I am glad I am no longer in that ‘profession’. I really can understand why you don’t see it as an unnecessary risk to put your hands all over naked strangers. I really can. I am not lying. I used to feel like it was perfectly safe to put my hands all over naked strangers, including men who are getting erections. Massage therapy is a great way to relieve a lot of issues like anxiety, insomnia, sciatica. So is acupuncture, chiropractic and physical therapy. I don’t think massage therapy should be illegal. To tell you the truth I actually got desperate enough to go to an LMT recently since this post for reflexology and cranial sacral therapy for plantar fasciitis so I guess I fibbed about that whole never getting a massage thing. I strongly feel there should be a prostitution/human trafficking education requirement for graduation from massage school as well as CEU. Massage therapy overlaps with both and that is especially hard to avoid in Florida. As for background checks I am glad Florida finally decided to actually do background checks. In the past they asked on the application if you had a record but they didn’t do checks so people could just lie. That will weed out people with disqualifying records. I am convinced that most massage therapists really are prostitutes. I was not and never have been but everyone assumed that I was. If someone is interested in massage therapy they may want to consider being a physical therapy assistant, physical therapist, acupuncture doctor, chiropractor, etc. and do something similar without the stigma of being an LMT. The police tend to think all massage therapists are prostitutes. I know for sure there was one who wasn’t, cause I wasn’t and I’m sure there are others. It isn’t all of them but I wouldn’t be surprised if it is at least half or more. Massage therapy is a stepping stone to prostitution. Just like stripping. It is also a stepping stone to human trafficking. If anyone is interested in becoming a massage therapist they should talk to 10 cops about the massage therapy industry and see what they have to say. There is no doubt massage helps a lot of physical/emotional ailments. I no longer have any doubt that most massage therapists are prostitutes and that is why I faced so much abuse/harassment that people expect a person to just endure. A Hillsborough County Sheriff Deputy came to massage envy as a client and told me that if we are sexually assaulted (grabbed or flashed) to not call the police because they don’t have time to be bothered and that we are creating a bad situation for ourselves and we need to just expect that things like that will happen to us. He did however, indicate that if we actually get raped or if there is a weapon involved to call them because that is a sign they might do that to someone else instead of just us. I guess if someone flashes or grabs a therapist it could be that they are confused and they think it is ok because they assume the LMT is also a prostitute so it is probably best for themselves to not call the cops on them. If they rape them or use a weapon obviously they are not confused and the police should be called even though the police won’t care about the LMT because as far as the police are concerned the LMT doesn’t matter and it is there fault. I guess it is true in a way that if we put our hands all over naked men who are getting erections if we get raped it is our fault because we were asking for it. I don’t expect anyone who hasn’t ‘seen the light’ about the truth about massage therapy to agree with me. I used to think the industry was pink ponies and butterflies and innocent but I have come to learn the truth. In the jurisdiction where I currently live massage therapy is considered adult entertainment. It is adult entertainment to put your hands all over naked strangers including men who are getting erections. I have heard that in some jurisdictions massage therapists have to register with the vice department at the police department. This is because massage therapy itself (even without prostitution) is a vice. I agree it can help a lot of ailments and at the same time the industry is a vice. The massage industry creates opportunity for prostitutes and human traffickers to ‘put out their shingle’ as a legal business. There are good people who became massage therapists who are now human traffickers/human trafficking victims thanks to their involvement with the massage industry. Frankly it has become my opinion that massage therapy, in spite of its benefits for many ailments, is a form of legal prostitution the police can’t do much about. Massage is always or almost always sexual for a man, or at least that is my belief at this point. As a woman I can’t tell you what it is like to be a man. Men can. Someone involved with human trafficking actually told me that in regards to massage therapists at massage envy who are not prostitutes (and he indicated he believes most of them are) he said they get a lof of people walking into their establishments damn near ready to kill somebody (because they are so mad they were not offered ‘extra services’). I feel terrible if I contributed to the suffering of human trafficking victims who had to finish the job a few blocks away from the massage envy where I worked. If they were going there damn near ready to kill somebody maybe crack addicted prostitutes roaming the streets alone desperate for that next fix are getting beat up by guys who just left an LMT who wasn’t offering ‘extra services.’ I heard that in Tampa they were trying to make a rule that you cannot have a massage establishment within a certain distance of a bus stop, school, daycare, church (as now human trafficking is an offense people have to register for as a sex offender and there is human trafficking going on in many massage establishments). I’m not sure if that went through or not but I think there needs to be as many rules in place to help people understand what they are getting themselves into. If you become an LMT people will assume you are a hooker and the police will hate you for that reason. I was harassed and abused by a lot of people basically because I wanted to help people because of the benefits that massage therapy has for physical/emotional ailments. Being a massage therapist was not the worst mistake of my life but I think it is a tie for second. I don’t expect people to believe me but I would encourage those who don’t to ask 10 cops, especially cops in Florida what they think of my opinions of the massage ‘profession.’ Go to your local health department and talk to them. I was going to start my own business and I went to pick up the paperwork that I would need for the inspection once I had a space and the guy wasn’t a jerk for no reason. Again, I don’t doubt that massage therapy can help people and even help someone avoid surgery and pain meds. I also don’t doubt that I would rather poke myself in the eye with a pencil then ever do massage for an occupation again.

          • Linda Spafford

            seriously leah go talk to at least 10 cops in florida and ask them about massage therapy………….you really should……….it sounds to me that you may be the ignorant one and I am not saying that to be mean. it sounds like you really are clueless about your occupation as was I. Everyone assumes you are a prostitute, especially the police.

          • leah

            Are. You. Serious. How long ago were you a therapist and when did you break out of the insane asylum you should OBVIOUSLY be in? Over half of my clients are sheriffs, deputies, dispatchers, firemen, nurses, moms (and their children), teachers. Some of the most respected people in my area. I work with a highly respected chiropractor and a team of very well-trained professionals in the health care field. I have had over 200 people in the last year tell me that my team and I are the sole reason they opted of back surgery, got back to the gym, can actually stand up straight without pain. I am a happily married mother of three and I have NOT ONCE been solicited for anything remotely considered sexual or prostitution. I think you have a diluted mindset Rolf what this profession actually is and I’m going to go out on a limb and say that you were never a therapist, because if you were, you wouldn’t be able to sit here and spew the bullshit that you are spewing right now.

          • Linda Spafford

            Obviously we have had different experiences with massage therapy. Talk to the sheriff about what I have expressed about massage therapy. He may agree with you that I am crazy and if he tells you the truth he will agree with at least half of my opinions about the massage therapy industry. The good of massage therapy doesn’t take away the bad. The fact that massage prevents surgery doesn’t take away the fact that massage therapy is a vice.

          • Linda Spafford

            and I do hope you will go to the department of health where you get the paperwork for setting up an establishment and see what they have to say. i hope you will talk to one of their investigators. i really do, because it seems like you have the same beautiful ideas about the industry that I once had. working at a chiropractors office is better environment then a massage envy that is for sure but it doesn’t completely remove the stigma of being an LMT, no matter how many surgeries you prevent or how many lives you save. Also here is just some of a lot of info. out there about the trafficking issue: http://www.abmp.com/textonlymags/article.php?article=584

          • leah

            The client/patient is not always naked. And out of the 3 years I’ve been in this profession, seeing anywhere from 5-20 people (half of which are male) five days out of seven, I can honestly say that maybe 3 have gotten an erection while on my table. And if your would have paid attention in the massage school you clearly never attended, you’d know that it is a perfectly normal and human response to complete relaxation caused by us triggering a parasympathetic response in the body. Gtfo with all of the nonsensical jibber jabber. And for you to sit there and claim that a police officer, sheriff or any other form of law enforcement would blame a sexual assault victim, is quite insulting. You, are a troll. You, are an idiot. You, are completely and utterly, out of your fucking mind.

          • Linda Spafford

            well yes I am and part of the reason I am out of my mind is because of my involvement with the massage industry. I would not be so out of my f**king mind had I never bothered to be a massage therapist. I am telling you the truth about what that cop told me and while I was hurt/offended at the time that he told me this I realize what he said is true. If you live long enough to get dementia or alzheimers disease, or if you get a brain tumor or have a stroke then you will be out of your mind and you will not be worth a shit either. I put forth a strong effort before I finally gave up on life.

          • leah

            Maybe you should just go ahead and give up then, because you’re clearly not bringing anything to the table as far as advancing the close minded society we live in today. Are there stigmas attached to the industry? Unfortunately, yes. But you won’t catch any respectable massage therapist who spent hard earned money or valuable time learning the skill toss it away for a quick buck. Goodbye troll.

          • Linda Spafford

            I have given up and I am sure you are happy about that. I worked hard in life, got a masters degree and busted my ass in other jobs and then made the mistake of doing what I always wanted……massage………just to have everyone on earth take a shit on me for caring about people. open your eyes and you will see the truth. talk to the sheriff if he is in fact your client because he isn’t ignorant.

          • leah

            I’m sorry that you had to endure that, but it isn’t like that anymore. Massage therapy is a highly respected profession. I’m done defending my passion and career choice to mindless riff raff on the internet.

          • Guest

            I can understand if you are hurt or offended by what I have said. and please remember your comments about people with brain disorders someday if you aren’t worth a shit because you may have a stroke someday or get into a car accident and then you will be totally worthless. I used to love massage therapy too until I took off my blind fold. I can understand your love for massage but you have your head in the sand like I used to. I really do sincerely hope you will talk to the police about massage therapy and human trafficking/prostitution and how they overlap, etc. because I thin kyou are blind to the truth. I think your comments about mental health prove you should not be considered a health professional.

          • Guest

            I apologize to everyone for my angry ramblings. Obviously I had a terrible experience as an LMT in Florida, and yes part of the problem was being in Florida. Obviously I have a lot of resentment and rage about the issue and I hope you all can forgive me for my angry ramblings.

          • leah

            I can understand if you’ve had a bad experience, but maybe instead of bashing people who have worked really hard to get where they are in their career, you should talk to someone about all of your resentment and rage. I have worked very hard to get my degree, and then to turn around And have someone shit on it, the way you said OTHER people did to you, really infuriates me. As I’ve said before, there are stigmas attached to the profession, and it sucks but people in the medical community are backing us now more than ever, and it isn’t how it used to be anymore. I don’t know how long it’s been since you were a therapist, or what it was like, but I can promise that it isn’t that today. We are practicing a highly respected skill that helps so many people in so many ways, and the community sees that.

          • Guest

            Again I apologize for my ramblings and acknowledge that my views may be overly negative due to my unfortunate experiences. I believe you that you have worked hard to get your degree and spent a lot of money like I did also and I apologize for how I may have made you feel with my remarks. I bet you do a lot of good for a lot of people and it sounds like you are in a very safe environment. If you do ever decide to work elsewhere I hope you will be very careful because although I do realize that I am overly negative human trafficking and prostitution does exist in the massage therapy industry, especially in Florida. I really am very concerned for your well being if you ever step outside the work environment you are currently in because the dangers are very real even still today and I sincerely hope you will talk to some law enforcement people about human trafficking and prostitution in massage therapy because it does still exist and if you ever leave where you are now and work for the wrong people you could be in a lot of danger and have no idea. Some situations are obviously more risky than others (like going to hotels to do massage therapy). I realize I have been very rude and basically a jerk because of the hurt I have attached to massage therapy and I am sorry for spewing my rage about that here as this is not the best forum within which to express that. I can understand your love for massage as I once shared that love. I am glad you work for a good chiropractic office as there are some chiropractors who pressure therapists into committing insurance fraud. Probably that is not as bad as I heard. Hearing the stories about it as a student made me shy away from applying for any employer that bills insurance. The best thing about massage envy – definately no insurance fraud. Obviously you can quit your job if someone makes you feel like you have to do something illegal but I didn’t want to have to deal with needing to walk out the door with no job so that I wouldn’t go to jail but that is what people have to do sometimes in all sorts of occupations. Again I don’t doubt that there is a lot about massage therapy that is very good and I bet there are people who are not in wheel chairs today because of your care and concern and talent but if you ever leave your current job please talk to some of these cops you know (or different cops if you don’t want to talk to a client about it) before you do. I am overly negative but human trafficking/prostitution is in the backyard of massage therapy. I know I have been a jerk but I am worried about you because obviously I am very negative now but I can comprehend the view that you have as it is the view I once had (that it isn’t like that anymore). I believe you that it isn’t like that where you are and I am happy for you that you have had a positive experience (minus my ramblings). Again, sorry if I have been hurtful. Obviously I have issues about my experience and this was not the best way to sort through all of that. Best wishes with your future as a therapist. I am confident that you are a talented healer and your patients are lucky to have you.

          • MassageMama

            She lost her license in Florida at a disciplinary hearing. Public record. So maybe that’s why she’s so convinced it’s an evil, sketchy profession.

          • Guest

            I disclosed the fact that I have do have issues as it asks on your application about medical history. Unlike a lot of people I was honest. I was required to comply with therapy, etc. which I did for a long time and then became so depressed I gave up on life. I had not been practicing during the time of my noncompliance with treatment. I was doing relatively well for a long time. I graduated from college. Graduated for graduate school. Worked in professional jobs. Finally did what I always wanted to do (massage) for two years and yes I developed a negative view of massage and I acknowledge I am overly negative. I could have made better choices to avoid my current situation and I would be doing better now, I realize that. But all things considered I put forth a strong effort for a long time and did relatively well for a long time and yes now I can’t communicate my thoughts effectively and am no longer able to work in high pressure jobs like I once did but I continue to at least work in low-wage low-responsibility pointless jobs rather than suck up welfare like a lot of people with my situation. so I am still at least make some kind of an effort to do something although I am not the doing-being-producing-success-machine I once envisioned I would be by now. I hope you never have some of the disabilities that I have. You really could be f**ked up too someday. anyone could get PTSD for example and sometimes it is very severe and never fully goes away. I hope that doesn’t happen to you but it might and then you will have fond memories of functioning better in the past just like I do. I know I have been a rude jerk and so have you. It is sad that someone who is NOT crazy who is a current health professional would make fun of people with health problems.

          • MassageMama

            You were the one who said you were crazy and I can see now why you did. So which is it? Car accident, brain tumor, Alzheimer’s or PTSD? You can’t seem to make up your mind.

            Fyi, I only make fun of people in wheelchairs they are being disrespectful assholes…like you.

          • Guest

            yes I have been a disrespectful jerk and like I have said a few times I am sorry for my abusive behavior. I haven’t claimed to have a car accident, brain tumor Alzheimer’s or PTSD, what I mean is those are things that can happen to anybody. You may not always be as healthy as you are now is what I meant by those four examples and those four examples are situations that you could have. Some conditions are biological, some are not. Again I do acknowledge that I’ve been a rude jerk and not clearly articulating my thoughts/feelings and obviously this was not the best place/way to express or sort through my resentment about things. I shouldn’t be taking my anger out on the whole world as I have been. I do wish you a lifetime of good health, but one of those four examples really could happen to you someday and I would not wish any of them on you or anyone. Just saying that ‘brain deficiencies’ can happen to anyone.

          • Guest

            the police aren’t mindless riff raff so I hope you will talk to them about the opinions I have expressed. they will agree that I am crazy…………I agree too………I am out of my mind………..and I am telling the truth……someday when you are out of your mind from a car accident or stroke or brain tumor people will criticize you for being completely worthless.

          • Guest

            and someday if you have a medical issue that makes you completely worthless you will have fond memories of the days you were able to do and be and produce, etc. I tried hard in life. I really did. then everyone on earth took a big shit on me for trying to help people and assumed I was a prostitute, a drug dealer and all kinds of things I am not and then went on with life like IT never happened. I understand that people with brain disorders aren’t worth a shit and they don’t matter………..so if you end up with dementia in your old age just keep that in mind because someday maybe you will be crazy.

          • Guest

            as for hard earned money I am still paying for my loans. if you open your eyes you will see the truth of your industry. massage therapy is bad no matter how good it is.

          • Linda Spafford

            Everything I have said is true and I don’t disagree that I have lost my mind. if any of you had gone through what I went through partly because of my poor decision to work as a massage therapist you would lose your mind too. I understand that I don’t matter because I am crazy and I also understand that I am telling the truth. at least I am not trying to be hurtful or disrespectful I am actually trying to help you all out a little by trying to pull you into reality. I wouldn’t make up a story about a cop telling me what I said they told me. at this point I think he is right. so if you do get sexually assaulted if you get the police involved I hope you will call a cop you know personally who trusts that you are not a prostitute so that they will care about you. you are at an advantage because you are married because he said we should call the police if there is a weapon involved or if we get raped because they don’t want that to happen to somebody’s wife and if they do that to us that is a sign it could happen to someone else. I said what about LMTs that are married? and he seemed surprised we had married LMTs there. he said ‘you wouldn’t think anybody would want to be married to a massage therapist.’ he went on to say it would be ok to call (if they get grabbed or flashed) if they are married because they would not want that to happen to somebody’s wife. I’m not lying to you. you can believe what you want of your occupation but if you would take a drive around Florida you might notice the truth. ask these cops you are telling me about see what they say. if you don’t feel comfortable asking them because they are clients, ask different cops.

          • Guest

            when you are in a nursing home you may be full of nonsensical jibber jabber. someday you may not be worth a shit because there will be something wrong with your brain.

          • MassageMama

            You would know all about brain deficiencies, wouldn’t you?

          • Guest

            someday people who enjoy making fun of people with brain ‘deficiencies’ will know all about brain deficiencies themselves. you really could live long enough to have alzheimers and then you will not make any sense yourself. I hope that never happens to you. I wish you a long healthy life. but you may not always be in your current state of health. if you have a really serious traumatic event you could end up under a bridge with severe PTSD. I hope that never happens to you but it could. so try to enjoy being normal, hopefully you always will be……….if not you will not be any good either and people will mock you. I hope you don’t make fun of peope in wheelchairs. yes I have been rude. I obviously have some issues but if you don’t i’m not sure what your reason is for your abusive behavior. I apologize for mine.

          • MassageMama

            I got sucked into this thread and have been wanting to bash my head against a wall for the last fifteen minutes. Ignore “guest”. I’m guessing they are a troll just looking to get a rise out of people like you and I (and is unfortunately doing it really well). If they aren’t a troll then they are just an ignoramus and arguing against them won’t help. All we can do is spread our positive message. Honestly, if he/she spouts out this crap to everyone they meet the logical ones will know right away Guest is talking out of their ass. Blanket statements like “most therapists are actually prostitutes” are just too ridiculous for anyone with half a brain to take seriously.

          • MassageMama

            Dude. Fuck. You. I was barely able to get through half of that nonsense drivel before I had to just stop reading before I punched out my computer. I am not and have never been a prostitute. And you are doing NOTHING but perpetrating that horrible stigma by making these comments. I’m actually starting to feel pretty convinced you’re just a dumbass troll because it’s hard for me to believe that someone that went through a legitimate massage therapy program could be so ignorant and disrespectful.

            BY THE WAY. Maybe your biggest problem is that you live in a piece of shit state called Florida.

          • Guest

            like I said before maybe I am wrong. maybe I am imagining things. maybe it is because I am crazy. maybe there is no such thing as prostitution and human trafficking in massage. maybe it is perfectly safe to put your hands all over naked men. maybe it is really really really safe to do massage in hotels and people’s homes even. maybe there is absolutely no safety concern there. maybe……………hmmmmmmmmmmm…………..

          • MassageMama

            Read my comments again. I never said that that kind of stuff never happens. I said that it is incredibly disrespectful to say that all or even most health care professionals are prostitutes. But I do agree that you’re fucking crazy. There is nothing wrong with performing massage in a safe, clinical environment. I don’t know why I’m even arguing with you because you’re obviously just an obstinate moron that only wants to perpetuate massage therapy in a negative light. Thank God you no longer perform. I can’t imagine how shitty your massages would be if you think every single person you work in is going to rape you.

          • Guest

            I don’t disagree that I am crazy. try to enjoy being normal. if you ever get into a car accident, have a stroke or get a brain tumor or live long enough to get alzheimers you won’t be normal anymore either and you might not be able to clearly communicate your thoughts either.

          • Faith S Barton

            in Ohio when we renew our license we have to watch a video on human trafficking. Just because there is a lot of shady people out there doing what hey aren’t doesn’t mean the industry as a whole is doing such things. People do NOT go to massage clinics or spas expecting sex, they expect a professional massage by a professional therapist. The places that do the so called “happy endings” don’t have LMT’s, no LMT would risk losing their license.

          • Linda Spafford

            I can understand why you don’t agree with me. I haven’t always thought that the massage industry is what I now see it as. I don’t doubt that massage therapy can benefit many physical and emotional ailments. I would encourage you to talk to 10 cops in Florida about their opinions about the massage therapy industry. Seriously. I really can understand why LMTs don’t see a problem with putting their hands all over naked people, many strangers, including men who are getting erections and seeing no problem. I’m not lying. I totally get it. I am also not lying when I say that you shouldn’t be surprised if people assume you are a prostitute. I endured a lot of harassment and abuse thanks to being an LMT. I really wasn’t a prostitute but that is what everyone, including the police, assumed.

    • MassageMama

      As a massage therapist, this comment disgusts me. Shame on you for perpetrating that fear-mongering bullshit on a legitimate profession that already has to deal with Hollywood and ignorant idiots like yourself making inappropriate jokes about something that, whether it be rehabilitative or relaxing, is in the end a healthcare service. Maybe you should go see a psychiatrist if you are having trust issues. Don’t pass on your own insecurities to other possible massage patients with a blanket statement about “all therapists are evil or have illicit intentions”. Jerk.

      • Guest

        well gee maybe everyone is right. maybe I am wrong. maybe there is no prostitution or human trafficking in massage therapy. maybe I am imagining the whole thing. maybe it is because I am crazy because crazy people can never be right. someday when you are crazy due to a stroke or car accident you won’t be worth a shit either.

    • Faith S Barton

      So my question is this for you “guest” are you one of those shady massage therapists? Getting a massage is completely safe at a legitimate massage clinic or spa. Massage therapists would NEVER risk losing their license over doing something illegal.

  • MassageMama

    Saying “something could happen” was absolutely the wrong approach on the receptionist’s behalf. The correct–and true–response is that it is simply the law for any minor to be accompanied by a legal guardian to the appointment. It’s unfortunate that you had to waste your time coming to the appointment alone, but it is also unreasonable for us to ask when booking every appointment if the client is a minor.

    I am in no way defending Massage Envy, or I wouldn’t even be on this website. I work at a real clinic as a receptionist AND a massage therapist and this is just common practice. We are legally required to have a legal guardian sign a consent form for us to work on a minor. In some cases, depending on the age, the adult may even be required to be in the treatment room at all times with the minor.

  • Renee

    The unfortunate reality is that there is a very ugly side to massage therapy and it is true that something might happen. There are a lot of bad people in this world so in an abundance of caution it is wise to get parental consent before an adult puts their hands all over a minor and if an adult is going to put their paws all over a minor (legally) the parent really should be there. Yes people are supposed to be professionals but some people go for certain occupations (like massage therapy) because they are up to something so as a precaution minors should be protected. A criminal defense attorney once told me some of the most disturbing situations he has dealt with has been massage therapists who have injured or exploited their patients somehow and while he doesn’t mind representing massage therapists he would never go to one.